tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post8998223140883276755..comments2024-03-25T02:31:25.905-07:00Comments on The Independent Wargames Group: I Told You So;.....................................Independentwargamesgrouphttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-12231066385097653402017-08-30T02:57:37.269-07:002017-08-30T02:57:37.269-07:00Yes, I see your point.Yes, I see your point.Prufrockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17659918463589870423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-47562060473859994102017-08-28T05:10:21.383-07:002017-08-28T05:10:21.383-07:00Hello Michael,
Sorry for my late reply, its been a...Hello Michael,<br />Sorry for my late reply, its been a busy old few days.Sadly the Guardian like so many other newspapers have lost a lot of credibility.They clearly have their own political agenda like all the other media outlets. Even the Times, strays away from impartiality. I swear to God though that a lot of left leaning persons espouse some view simply to provoke a reaction, except nowadays the reaction tends to be more vitriolic and violent than in the past.Perhaps if these people had to face the physical effects of what they espouse then they wouldnt be so keen to create such upset. Its my fault that I have stepped outside of the wargaming world and created the dialogue on my blog. Unfortunately I have always 'shot from the hip'and then regretted what I have said, even if it was correct. [Normally about 100% of the time. Just joking, only the Pope can claim that privilege.] Anyway I will attempt to turn my attention to more pleasant events. Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-59777336693972109202017-08-27T11:17:39.997-07:002017-08-27T11:17:39.997-07:00Scalextric is powered by electricity and therefore...Scalextric is powered by electricity and therefore was ahead of its time as far as the environment is concerned. Trouble is that like now you can't go very far in an electric car ......Colin Ashtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11650235978313356607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-30617267681972104742017-08-27T11:15:19.346-07:002017-08-27T11:15:19.346-07:00good point good point Colin Ashtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11650235978313356607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-64580891058803550032017-08-27T11:14:46.718-07:002017-08-27T11:14:46.718-07:00if I'm going to hell it's in my BMW đŸ˜‰if I'm going to hell it's in my BMW đŸ˜‰Colin Ashtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11650235978313356607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-75203166210808539172017-08-27T11:09:25.390-07:002017-08-27T11:09:25.390-07:00That, Phil, is the Marxist view of history, propag...That, Phil, is the Marxist view of history, propagated by History departments in Western centres of education. While occasionally it may happen that way. That we are all marching towards a Socialist utopian civilisation, no. Marx could not comprehend demographics, the rise of Chinese nationalism, and Sunni Islam as political forces. Even if his world view ever prevailed, it would collapse in two generations. The ruling class would fear the people, and end up giving the key jobs to members of their own families, and finally bribing the 'generals' to keep them safe. Communism would ultimately turn into Feudalism....... its human nature............. ok, Robbie, I will say no more! I'm painting up French revolutionary cavalry now, some of my own castings. Nice chatting with you Phil. <br />MichaelMGBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00063536309395034188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-41962915102947724392017-08-27T07:38:01.499-07:002017-08-27T07:38:01.499-07:00History if of course full of "what-ifs",...History if of course full of "what-ifs", but historical events also happened because of a reason. If they would not have happened at the instance they did happen, they might have happened a few years later under slightly different circumstances, but perhaps with very similar outcomes.Phil DutrĂ©https://www.blogger.com/profile/13607941040736764291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-36181981896888404182017-08-27T04:14:45.689-07:002017-08-27T04:14:45.689-07:00Phil, I won't debate heavily here, and I am we...Phil, I won't debate heavily here, and I am well aware of the counter arguments you may have. Washington held a party in the late 1780s, he asked a Quaker friend if he was enjoying the occasion. He replied, 'no, too many friends are missing, and within fifty years from now there will be such a bloody war between the states.' Well the quaker was out by a few years, but he was close enough. Concerning France, had they embraced a constitutional monarchy as promoted by Lafayette, that country and Europe would not have suffered the Napoleonic bloodbath. I stand my ground, bloody revolutions rarely if ever give more than they take. But, I respect your position. MichaelMGBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00063536309395034188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-36207455058922482302017-08-27T03:56:19.860-07:002017-08-27T03:56:19.860-07:00The last two sentences show that not only "le...The last two sentences show that not only "left-wing luvvies" suffer from a distorted view on history. ;-)Phil DutrĂ©https://www.blogger.com/profile/13607941040736764291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-9844296752063997292017-08-27T02:38:38.063-07:002017-08-27T02:38:38.063-07:00Hi Robbie, although often horrified by Guardian ar...Hi Robbie, although often horrified by Guardian articles and occasionally their usual readers, I'm not surprised. As Disraeli said of them, 'they love every country more than their own', and 'they would give away everything that doesn't belong to them'. Granted, many of these 'liberals' have good memories, but they seriously lack common sense. By the way, Napoleon was a nasty little tyrant, we were the good guys in the Napoleonic wars too. And the American and French revolutions were disasters for both the USA and Europe. Hope everyone has a nice day! MichaelMGBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00063536309395034188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-16584288195904251482017-08-26T01:17:13.982-07:002017-08-26T01:17:13.982-07:00Robbie, you're getting it!!! :-) Actually I re...Robbie, you're getting it!!! :-) Actually I read that Nelson had applied for DLA but was assessed by the DWP as being fit for work.Colin Ashtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11650235978313356607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-91855915784002547302017-08-26T00:02:15.737-07:002017-08-26T00:02:15.737-07:00Svjek, actually there are still plenty of Victoria...Svjek, actually there are still plenty of Victorian era statues still standing in India.Colin Ashtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11650235978313356607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-51900593565814810752017-08-25T10:06:47.641-07:002017-08-25T10:06:47.641-07:00Evening Guy,
How are the London Elite?, Just joki...Evening Guy,<br /> How are the London Elite?, Just joking. Offering up Mandela, was to show the pathetic argument put forward by that stupid woman. I predict within five years, some council in this country will attempt to pull down some statue erected by the Victorians, or remove some street name. We have villages up North where the streets catalogue all of the victories of our Imperial past, including the very dubious victories. They are just too good a target,and would reinforce the credentials of our Socialist masters up here. As for the USA, well that's a whole other mess. There can be nothing worse than prodding some white supremacist given their love of high powered automatic weapons.Sadly only the innocent will suffer.As usual. It always seems the people who demand these things live safely away from the consequences of their demands. Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-90512191297254689832017-08-25T09:57:31.105-07:002017-08-25T09:57:31.105-07:00Now Colin, You spoiled yourself there.Now Colin, You spoiled yourself there.Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-83605883224458278532017-08-25T09:56:46.582-07:002017-08-25T09:56:46.582-07:00Currently there is a petition demanding that Marks...Currently there is a petition demanding that Marks and Spencers stop selling the Daily Mail on the grounds of their racism and anti migrant stance.It seems to have had a few usual suspects backing this bollocks, but what I have noticed increasingly is that if one vocalizes a demand constantly, it receives a response, usually contrary to commonsense. If one has to justify every statue then the clamour has won? I mean how does one justify a statue to the fallen of the First or second Boer War? Britsih Imperialism against simple farmers? Cecil Rhodes? Oxford's justification is he gave a lot of money to the University. Hardly a reason to keep his statue is it? Live and Let Live would perhaps be a better answer, or simply, 'Get a Life.' Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-58787607512801374602017-08-25T09:49:10.697-07:002017-08-25T09:49:10.697-07:00I have lately forgotten the whole point of the eth...I have lately forgotten the whole point of the ethos behind my blog. Wargaming and reading history has contributed so much to my life, probably for good and bad. I love the colour and spectacle of toy soldiers, but know that the realities are a mile away from what I love about our hobby. In my former life, writ large above my door were the words, Knowledge is Power, and frankly if one studies the history of man and the many mistakes we have made in the past,one should in theory be able not to make them in the future. Expelling our history is frankly Orwellian in the nightmare that would inevitably follow. Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-47115749111623720252017-08-25T09:44:10.504-07:002017-08-25T09:44:10.504-07:00Which is a great place to be.Which is a great place to be.Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-86135109161742932842017-08-25T09:42:53.427-07:002017-08-25T09:42:53.427-07:00Paul,
What I've observed nowadays, that if som...Paul,<br />What I've observed nowadays, that if something or someone is upsetting, then the clamour is to Ban them or it. It seems that by the item simply ceasing to exist then its no longer a problem. Ostriches and sand come to mind.I blame peoples' inability to actually deal with life. Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-46816183641709549872017-08-25T09:40:19.917-07:002017-08-25T09:40:19.917-07:00Do you know Chris, I've met an awful lot of wa...Do you know Chris, I've met an awful lot of wargamers over this many years. I dont think I've ever met one who gloried in war.Perhaps because a lot actually studied war in some detail. As for the political element, well perhaps you may be correct, but in this current environment one wonders where we are heading.Probably to Hell in a Handcart. Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-67517204134055644212017-08-25T09:37:34.654-07:002017-08-25T09:37:34.654-07:00More like dystopian, except I struggle to understa...More like dystopian, except I struggle to understand what that actually means.Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-44448584637104186892017-08-25T09:36:32.781-07:002017-08-25T09:36:32.781-07:00Except of course it was merely the early IRA attac...Except of course it was merely the early IRA attacking a symbol of British Imperialism? Not sure about their target though, given how Nelson was seen as a revolutionary in his time.Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-53839107374821369122017-08-25T09:35:01.217-07:002017-08-25T09:35:01.217-07:00Colin,
One of the many ironies for me is that duri...Colin,<br />One of the many ironies for me is that during my re education in a former life, Nelson was held up as a great example of diversity. I mean he was a severely disabled person who overcame his disabilities to hold down a full time job. Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-21755388566626457702017-08-25T08:48:42.447-07:002017-08-25T08:48:42.447-07:00Back to statues. I think we have to accept that kn...Back to statues. I think we have to accept that knocking down statues makes damn good press - remember those US soldiers using their tank to topple the statue of Saddam and then all the locals stated whacking it with their shoes. <br /><br />On the other hand having some twerp suggesting toppling Nelson's column is beyond ridiculous. On Mandela I'm sorry I'm not with you on that point. Yes he was convicted by the apartheid regime but I think most people would accept that the conviction really did not stand up either then or now historically, legally, morally and politically. He was then the President of SA, a Nobel peace prize winner and in the galaxy of useless politicians then and now at least he achieved a peaceful transition and the semblance or normalcy. He also wasn't corrupt.<br /><br />This really started in the US and I regret to say much of what both sides are saying there is total nonsense. The white supremacists are beyond the pale and toppling statues of almost totally forgotten confederate generals achieves nothing except throwing buckets of petrol on the fire which the extremists on the other side exploit. <br /><br />Guy<br /><br /> guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02346804356499461777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-11586455615534882242017-08-24T23:57:28.399-07:002017-08-24T23:57:28.399-07:00Sorry, I shouldn't have missed that ;-) With a...Sorry, I shouldn't have missed that ;-) With all this Nelson talk and me reading a few books on Napoleon lately, my mindset is firmly in the Napoleonic era these days ;-)Phil Dutréhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13607941040736764291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1558595533686058562.post-33849047317673965632017-08-24T10:31:43.886-07:002017-08-24T10:31:43.886-07:00My favourite was one I saw of Boudicca.My favourite was one I saw of Boudicca.Independentwargamesgrouphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07019172667119107650noreply@blogger.com